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New Winthrop/ETV Poll Finds Thompson, Giuliani and Romney in Dead Heat
As Clinton Widens Lead Over Obama From Previous Horserace Poll
One-Third Registered SC Repubs/Dems Remain Undecided

 

Columbia SC...The results of the latest Winthrop/ETV Poll, conducted between Oct. 7 and Oct. 28, 2007, are in--just a few months before South Carolinians will be going to the primaries to decide the presidential nominees.

 

The results will be released exclusively during the November 1 edition of South Carolina ETV's "The Big Picture" show at 7:30 p.m. ETV is the public television and radio network in South Carolina.

 

The Winthrop/ETV Poll was conducted among 522 likely Republican primary voters and 534 likely Democratic primary voters, and has a margin of error of plus/minus 4.29 percent for likely Republican primary voters and plus/minus 4.24 percent for likely Democratic primary voters.  Respondents were randomly selected from lists of registered voters in South Carolina. As is true with all survey data, reported results that use only a subset of the data will have a slightly higher margin of error.

 

Commenting on the results (see data below), Dr. Scott Huffmon, director of the Winthrop/ETV Poll initiative, said, "Since 1980, no one has ever won the Republican nomination for the presidency if they haven't won South Carolina. That means Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney have three months to distinguish themselves to South Carolina voters. Our poll is good news for Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney, and surprising, but consistent good news for Giuliani. Thompson's job now is to continue to mine the ore among the undecideds. His message has to be, 'I am the real conservative you have been waiting for.' In terms of Romney, even though it took awhile for the returns on his campaign spending to pay off, our poll shows that his investment definitely has. Romney's job now is to convince South Carolinians that Giuliani is not the only one who can beat Clinton. Giuliani has just the opposite challenge--he needs to convince primary voters that he is the only one who can beat Clinton.

 

"The strong organization that Hillary Clinton has in South Carolina is reaping dividends. She is the candidate a lot of establishment Democrats feel can win back the presidency. While she doesn't run as well in some constituencies as others, she is clearly the overall front-runner. In order to win over South Carolina voters, Barack Obama needs to highlight Clinton as a polarizing figure. He needs to convince South Carolinians that the only way Democrats will lose the race in 2008 is if they nominate her. The message for Obama now is that you have to go directly at the person in the lead. It is not just about President Bush or Iraq anymore. It has to be about why Obama is better than Clinton.

 

"As for the McCain and Edwards' campaigns: Edwards' strategy is focused on Iowa. His goal is to hold on to his faithful supporters for now, win in Iowa, and pull others onto his bandwagon. Meanwhile, McCain came into the race as the establishment candidate, and the presumptive nominee. But his support was quite obviously soft, and when people found any reason to peel off to another candidate, they took it. With the 'No Surrender' tour, McCain is back to fundamentals and trying to firm up his soft supporters, but he is just not winning them over in the numbers he needs. McCain has to stress the core issues important to Republicans, and try to convince people to turn away from the front-runners, while simultaneously coaxing back the voters he lost to them."

 

Among the Winthrop/ETV Poll findings:

  • The top three Republican candidates are in a statistical dead-heat, with Fred Thompson getting 17.9 percent of the vote, and Rudolph Giuliani and Mitt Romney each receiving 16. 5 percent. In the previous Winthrop/ETV horserace poll, conducted in May 2007, when Thompson had yet to declare his candidacy, Giuliani led the pack with 18.6 percent, Romney had 11.7 percent and the undeclared Thompson posted 6.4 percent.  This means that since May, among registered Republican voters in SC, Thompson has gone up 179.7 percent, Romney, who has waged an aggressive ad campaign in the Palmetto State, has increased 41 percent, and Giuliani has dropped 11.3 percent.

  • In this most recent poll, McCain posted 9.2 percent. The previous horserace poll in May had him at 14.4 percent. So, in the past five months, McCain's ability to win the nod from registered Republicans against the field, has dropped 36.1 percent.

  • Among registered likely Democratic voters, Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over her next-closest challenger, Barack Obama. According to this latest Winthrop/ETV poll, Clinton snagged 33 percent of the vote to Barack Obama's 22.7. When the two last went head-to-head in a Winthrop/ETV poll back in May, Clinton was at 29.2 percent and Obama at 20.8. This means Clinton has increased the margin of her lead over Obama by 22.6 percent in the last five months.

  • For registered Democrats, John Edwards remains a distant third, garnering only 9.6 percent of the vote, reflecting a drop of 10.3 percent over what he received in May (when he won 10.7 percent of the vote).

  • Almost one-third of registered Republicans and registered Democrats in South Carolina remain undecided as to whom they will vote for in the primaries. This duplicates the results from the Winthrop/ETV poll in May 2007 that found an identical number of Republicans unsure (29.9 percent) and Democrats virtually the same-29.6 percent in the just completed poll, compared to 30.4 percent in May.

  • When asked if Rudolph Giuliani and Hillary Clinton should go on to become the candidates for their respective parties, almost 10 percent of Republicans said that they would vote for NEITHER Giuliani nor Clinton, while over 80 percent said they would select Giuliani. In the Democratic camp, only 4 percent said they would vote for NEITHER, while almost 80 percent said they would elect Clinton the president.

 

In other poll findings:

  • Over 66 percent of registered Republicans think that their party should make a special effort to reach out to minority voters such as blacks and Hispanics. And of those, almost 50 percent feel that the party is not currently doing enough in that direction.

  • Registered Democrats and registered Republicans chose "honesty" as the most important quality when it comes to them selecting a candidate for the presidency. By an almost identical number--Democrats 36.4, Republicans 34.1--honesty easily bested any of the other options. For Democrats, "knowledge/intelligence" came in second with 17. 8 percent, while "exhibits values similar" to theirs came in second for Republicans with 26.4 percent.

  • On the subject of which issue they would most like to hear the presidential candidates discuss, the Iraq war was selected number one by Democrats (30.8 percent), while for the Republicans, illegal immigration got their vote (18.2 percent). The Iraq war took second place in importance for Republicans (16.4 percent), while Dems selected healthcare (24.8 percent).

  • When those of both parties who said they voted for George W. Bush as president in 2004 were asked if they would change their vote if they could go back and do so, almost 92 percent of Republicans said no and over one-third of Democrats said they would (33.8 percent), while 62.3 percent of them said they stood by their original decision.

  • Almost 80 percent of registered Democrats and Republicans said that who the vice presidential candidate is matters a great deal, or somewhat, when deciding who to vote for in the presidential race. Among Democrats, 79.6 percent felt that way, while 78.5 percent of Republicans shared that sentiment. Respondents from both parties also felt similarly when asked if they would ever choose to vote AGAINST their preferred presidential candidate because of who was running with them on the ticket, 18 percent of Democrats said they would, while 19.4 percent of Republicans felt that way. When asked if having a Southerner as the vice-presidential candidate made a difference to them, by an overwhelming majority, members of each party said no (74.1 percent of Democrats, 77.1 percent of Republicans).

  • Almost 90 percent of Democrats disapprove of George W. Bush's handling of the war in Iraq (89.4 percent), while almost 60 percent of Republicans approve (59.1 percent).

  • Almost 40 percent of Republicans believe the effects of global warming are being exaggerated (38.5 percent), while almost 71 percent of Democrats believe global warming is real and is occurring now (70.8 percent).

WINTHROP/ETV POLL RESULTS:

 

AMONG LIKELY REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS

 

If the Republican presidential primary election were held today, which of these candidates would you vote for? [names rotated]

Sam Brownback* 0.2
Rudy Giuliani 16.5
Mike Huckabee 5.4
Duncan Hunter 0.8
John McCain 9.2
Ron Paul 2.1
Mitt Romney 16.5
Tom Tancredo 0.6
Fred Thompson 17.9
Undecided/Not Sure 29.9
Refused 1.0
*Brownback's name was removed when he officially withdrew from the race.
 

Do the spouses of the Republican presidential candidates have any impact on how you will decide to cast your vote in the Republican primary?

Yes 14.8
No 80.0
Not sure 5.2
Refused 0.0
 

Do you think the Republican Party should make a special effort to reach out to minority voters such as blacks and Hispanics?

Yes 66.4
No 26.1
Not sure 6.9
Refused 0.6
 

Do you think the Republican Party is currently doing enough to reach out to minority voters?  [asked ONLY of those who said the Republican Party should make special effort to reach out]

Yes 25.1
No 47.0
Not sure 28.0
Refused 0.0

AMONG LIKELY DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS

 

If the Democratic presidential primary election were held today, which of these candidates would you vote for? [names rotated]

Joe Biden 2.4
Hillary Clinton 33.0
Christopher Dodd 0.4
John Edwards 9.6
Mike Gravel 0.0
Dennis Kucinich 0.0
Barack Obama 22.7
Bill Richardson 0.4
Undecided/Not sure 29.6
Refused 2.1
 

Do the spouses of the Democratic presidential candidates have any impact on how you will decide to cast your vote in the Democratic primary?

Yes 24.0
No 71.2
Not sure 4.9
Refused 0.0

QUESTIONS ASKED OF BOTH PARTIES

 

How closely have you been following the presidential nominations for the 2008 elections? Would you say you have been following the presidential primary races very closely, somewhat closely, not very closely, or not at all closely?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Very closely
30.8
27.5
Somewhat closely
45.5
48.4
Not very closely
17.7
21.5
Not at all closely
5.8
2.5
Refused
0.2
0.0
 

Have you actually met or seen any of the candidates in person during the campaign?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Yes
13.2
12.4
No
86.8
87.6
 

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is doing his job as president?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Approve
7.9
62.0
Disapprove
87.9
23.4
Not sure
3.4
12.8
Refused
0.8
1.7
 

Which of the following qualities is most important to you in selecting the candidate for whom you will vote?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Experience
13.8
10.1
Knowledge/Intelligence
17.8
9.5
Honesty
36.4
34.1
Diplomatic skills
6.4
3.3
Holds positions similar to yours
4.7
7.6
Exhibits values similar to yours
12.3
26.4
Not sure
8.1
9.1
Refused
0.4
0.0
 

What is the one issue that you would most like to hear the candidates for president discuss?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Iraq
30.8
16.4
Terrorism
0.4
3.1
Economy
8.3
8.4
International trade
0.6
0.4
Deficit
1.3
1.0
Crime
0.2
0.2
Healthcare
24.8
7.6
Social Security
4.2
2.3
Environment
0.8
1.0
Homosexuality/Same sex marriage
1.1
0.6
Unemployment
2.5
0.4
Taxes
1.9
6.7
Price of gas
0.6
0.2
Dependence on foreign oil
0.0
0.4
Energy issues
0.2
0.6
Illegal immigration
4.0
18.2
Poverty
0.8
0.2
Welfare
1.1
0.8
Afghanistan
0.0
0.2
Immorality in country - lack of religion
0.2
2.3
Security/Protecting us from terrorism
0.6
7.8
Education
2.8
1.4
Couldn't think of one
5.7
6.1
Other
6.8
13.5
Refused
0.2
0.2
 

Some national polls have shown Rudolph Giuliani and Hillary Clinton leading their respective races.  If Giuliani and Clinton win the nominations of their parties, which one would you vote for?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Giuliani
7.6
80.4
Clinton
79.4
5.1
Neither
4.0
9.6
Wouldn't vote
0.9
1.6
Not sure
6.6
3.1
Refused
1.5
0.2
 

Did you vote for George W. Bush over John Kerry in 2004?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Yes
14.6
93.7
No
82.2
4.7
Don't remember
1.1
0.2
Didn't vote in 2004
1.3
0.6
Refused
0.8
0.8
 

If you could go back to 2004 would you change your vote for president?  [asked ONLY of those who voted for Bush in 2004]

 
Democrats
Republicans
Yes
33.8
6.7
No
62.3
91.9
Not sure
3.9
1.5
Refused
0.0
0.0
 

How much does the Vice Presidential candidate matter when you are deciding who to vote for? Does it matter a great deal, somewhat, or not at all?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Great deal
37.8
23.9
Somewhat
41.8
54.6
Not at all
17.0
21.1
Not sure
3.4
0.2
Refused
0.0
0.2
 

Would you ever choose to vote against your preferred presidential candidate because you disliked the Vice Presidential candidate so much?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Yes
18.0
19.4
No
72.2
73.6
Not sure
9.5
7.0
Refused
0.4
0.0
 

Would having a Southerner as a Vice Presidential candidate make you more likely, less likely, or neither more nor less likely to vote for a particular Presidential candidate?

 
Democrats
Republicans
More
14.7
14.9
Less
6.2
4.3
Neither
74.1
77.1
Not sure
4.9
3.1
Refused
0.0
0.6
 

Do you approve or disapprove of George W. Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Approve
5.3
59.1
Disapprove
89.4
30.7
Not sure
4.4
9.6
Refused
0.9
0.6
 

Do you feel that we should set a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Yes
75.9
25.3
No
15.2
68.6
Not sure
8.3
5.5
Refused
0.6
0.6
 

Which of the following do you consider the most reasonable amount of time to complete a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq:  [asked ONLY of those who think we should set timetable for withdrawal]

 
Democrats
Republicans
Six months
49.1
20.8
One year
32.4
36.2
Two years
9.2
20.8
Longer than two years
2.5
9.2
Not sure [volunteered]
6.5
13.1
Refused
0.2
0.0
 

Do you believe that the war in Iraq has made America safer or created additional threats to our security?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Safer
10.2
63.7
Additional threats
77.9
22.2
Neither [only if volunteered]
4.2
6.7
Not sure [only if volunteered]
7.6
6.9
Refused
0.2
0.6
 

Do you approve or disapprove of George W. Bush’s handling of the war in Afghanistan?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Approve
14.0
69.9
Disapprove
75.0
16.1
Not sure
9.6
13.1
Refused
1.3
1.2
 

We’d like to get your thoughts on Global Warming.  Which of the following statements comes closest to your beliefs:

 
Democrats
Republicans
Global warming is real and is occurring now
70.8
36.9
Global warming is real but won't be a problem for a long time
8.7
12.2
The effects of global warming are being exaggerated
6.8
38.5
Global warming is not real
2.7
6.9
Not sure [volunteered]
10.2
5.1
Refused [volunteered]
0.8
0.4
 

Which statement comes closest to your opinion on illegal immigration:

 
Democrats
Republicans
Immigrants who do not currently have legal status should be allowed to pay a fine and stay in the US while they apply for citizenship
38.4
25.5
Immigrants who do not currently have legal status should be immediately deported
43.2
61.6
Not sure
16.9
12.2
Refused
1.5
0.8
 

Some people believe that building a fence along much of the Mexican border would be an effective way to combat illegal immigration, others disagree. How about you? Do you agree or disagree? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Strongly agree
13.2
25.7
Somewhat agree
15.3
23.7
Somewhat disagree
20.8
13.1
Strongly disagree
42.5
29.8
Not sure
7.8
7.3
Refused
0.4
0.4
 

Economically, do you feel that you are better off, worse off, or in about the same position you were in four years ago?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Better
17.6
46.0
Worse
44.6
12.0
Same
35.9
40.5
Not sure
1.9
1.2
Refused
0.0
0.4
 

Crosstab:

Economic Attitude by Yearly Household Income

Economically, do you feel that you are better off, worse off, or in about the same position you were in four years ago?

 
$50k/year and under
Over $50k/year
Better
20.0
42.7
Worse
37.0
21.2
Same
41.3
35.2
Not sure
1.7
0.6
Refused
0.0
0.2
 

How important would you say religion is in your own life: Very important, fairly important, or not very important?

 
Democrats
Republicans
Very important
74.7
78.2
Fairly important
15.1
12.5
Not very important
9.5
8.2
Not sure
0.4
0.6
Refused
0.4
0.4